A patient, deep and measured dialogue with Prof. Matthew David Segall in which we further the ongoing effort to think and imagine the evolution of Christianity ‘beyond itself’ in relation to myriad challenges and potentials both past and present.
We explore:
Christian revival and ‘Christendom’ thinking
Walking a path of sacred pluralism
Christianity as both colonial and liberatory
The power of ‘the word’ and the Christ event
Atheism’s relation to death
The musicality of being and divine resonance
Tensions and dialogue with Islam
Gender, Masculinity & Islam
Church, Initiatory Spaces & Psychedelic Christianity
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Chapters:
5:20 Emerging Christic movements, Christendom and Western decline
7:00 Jacob’s journey in/out of Christianity, EUROTAS, peyote
10:11 Matthew on Jesus’ non-violent ministry
13:40 Healing Christianity-indigenous relations
15:10 Christianity as bringing a liberatory message
17:56 Non-evangelism, concrete universality & pluralism
20:41 The already-done Cosmic Christ event
24:51 The impact of Atheist perspectives on death
37:39 Musicality of life & divine resonance
40:49 Islam and the West
57:34 Dialogue with Islam
1:07:00 Islam & the West as mirror to men & women
1:18 Reclaiming indigenousness
1:20 Church vs. initiatory ceremony (Buddha, Dharma, Sangha)
1:29:40 Matt reflects on 20 years of YouTube philosophy
Our previous dialogue:
This is the second dialogue in the series, following our first exploration which launched this series in Oct 2024:
Notes:
Matthew’s Substack ☿ Footnotes2Plato ☼☽
More from Jacob:
www.jacobkishere.com
SENSESPACE’s Intro theme comes from our friend Coryayo’s cosmic medicine music.










